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remmeh · Apr 12, 2006, 10:37 PM // 22:37

Agreed... i find the range of the flatbow to be much greater than that of the longbow. so it goes something like this:

flatbow > longbow > horn bow = composite bow > short bow

not sure about the range of the horn, i don't use one regularly.

Valerius · Apr 12, 2006, 10:53 PM // 22:53

i don't know... in my experience they've always fired at the same range...

SnipiousMax · Apr 13, 2006, 04:23 PM // 16:23

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Originally Posted by Valerius

i don't know... in my experience they've always fired at the same range...

Mine too...Could it have something to do with the arc?

remmeh · Apr 13, 2006, 07:20 PM // 19:20

Did a test, Longbow vs. Flatbow. Results are attached.

Testing method:
1. walked up to the circle shown in both screenshots.
2. equipped the proper bow.
3. selected the Longbow Target, and hit [SPACE] once.
4. character will walk up out of the circle to attack the target.

Results: if you switch between the screenshots quickly, you will see that the flatbow has a trivially slightly longer range. (IMO)

Evilsod · Apr 13, 2006, 07:28 PM // 19:28

As far as i know Flat Bows and Long Bows have the exact same range.

You can always take a few steps back once you fire the first arrow and you'll fire from there. Horn Bows are the same range aren't they? Just slower.

SnipiousMax · Apr 13, 2006, 07:35 PM // 19:35

Did you try firing the Flat bow first, then before moving, switching to the longbow and firing again. If the Flatbow has a longer range, then your character should move again before attacking. If it doesn't, then you'd attack without moving. That'd be a little bit easier to see.

remmeh · Apr 13, 2006, 08:28 PM // 20:28

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Originally Posted by SnipiousMax

Did you try firing the Flat bow first, then before moving, switching to the longbow and firing again. If the Flatbow has a longer range, then your character should move again before attacking. If it doesn't, then you'd attack without moving. That'd be a little bit easier to see.

true this. didn't think of that.

Macktar Wang · Apr 13, 2006, 08:45 PM // 20:45

First of all, great guide Remmeh. Very thorough, and the video is awesome. I can't wait to try this out soon (hopefully). I do have a question though. You refer to that quest reward bow with the "-2 damage while stanced" modifier. My question is, which of the ranger skills qualifies you as being in a stance to receive the -2 bonus? I thought the only stance Rangers had was Practiced Stance (E). Again, I could be completely wrong here.

Great guide though. Thanks for sharing this with us all.

Mack

Ephemeral Dreamer · Apr 13, 2006, 10:47 PM // 22:47

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Originally Posted by Macktar Wang

My question is, which of the ranger skills qualifies you as being in a stance to receive the -2 bonus? I thought the only stance Rangers had was Practiced Stance (E). Again, I could be completely wrong here.

Mack

For for the skill set mention by Remmeh, when fighitng Shephards, Woods, Spiders, Worms, you should be always in a stance (either mantra of lighting or physical resistance depending on what your fighting). Another note, if You ever unsure of what skill is a stance,enchant,spell,etc,etc, just hightlight the skill, and in in the desciption of the skill, the 1st word/few words will tell you what kind of skill it is.
EX-Lets say you highlight Mantra off Lighting the description would be-
"Stance. For 30 seconds,whenever you take Lighting Damage
the damage is reduced by 26% and you gain 1 energy"

PS Rangers have alot more stances then just Practiced Stance.They also have stormchaser,serpants quickness,tiger's fury,escape, dodge,dryder's defence,lighting relfex, whirling defence )that should be most of thier stance i thk)

remmeh · Apr 13, 2006, 10:57 PM // 22:57

anything that begins with "Stance." in the skill description is a stance.

don't worry about it too much... i had a friend that thought you could only use stances while standing still. so much for sprint ^^

Huntmaster · Apr 14, 2006, 12:04 AM // 00:04

Is it just me or does the -2 bow have a shorter range then a regular longbow? Maybe i'll go test it in a bit..

So after testing this real quick, the -2 bow seems to have WAY shorter range the a regular longbow.. hmm..

remmeh · Apr 14, 2006, 04:05 AM // 04:05

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Originally Posted by Huntmaster

Is it just me or does the -2 bow have a shorter range then a regular longbow? Maybe i'll go test it in a bit..

So after testing this real quick, the -2 bow seems to have WAY shorter range the a regular longbow.. hmm..

really? i thought it was a regular feathered longbow.

Ephemeral Dreamer · Apr 14, 2006, 05:43 AM // 05:43

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Originally Posted by remmeh

really? i thought it was a regular feathered longbow.

Noticed the same thing when I 1st used the -2 bow(beofre I sold it by mistake again

). The long bow range is about a bit out of your aggro bubble,, but when I use the -2 bow i find I the monsters have to be within my aggro bubble. Found this out when I was fighting a few Shepards and Spirit Wood and decided to switch from Drago's to the -2 bow , and since I usually don't bother to use troll till my life dips down below 150 I got smoked by lightingstrike->chainlighting (realized they were in casting range a little to late

)

fiery · Apr 14, 2006, 05:46 AM // 05:46

Man I dunno if I wanna try it out for the gold sink >.<. I may after I stop doing solo trapping UW.

God's Will · Apr 14, 2006, 07:03 AM // 07:03

Well i finally was able to clear the whole forest. It took me three tries to get there, but once i did it was pretty easy (due to the vid

). And what quest do you receive the bow as a reward from?

Huntmaster · Apr 14, 2006, 07:52 AM // 07:52

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Originally Posted by fiery

Man I dunno if I wanna try it out for the gold sink >.<. I may after I stop doing solo trapping UW.

Uh, are you trying to impress somebody?

Yanman.be · Apr 14, 2006, 08:41 AM // 08:41

I got this nice bow here... Icy ( must be Fiery if I'm fighting plants right? ) Storm Bow of Pruning
max dmg
14% -5 energy
18% vs plants
20% customized

Is there anyway to improve my damage? ( without using vampiric )

remmeh · Apr 14, 2006, 11:41 AM // 11:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yanman.be

I got this nice bow here... Icy ( must be Fiery if I'm fighting plants right? ) Storm Bow of Pruning
max dmg
14% -5 energy
18% vs plants
20% customized

Is there anyway to improve my damage? ( without using vampiric )

get a 20% pruning grip and make it 15/-5.

i don't think there's any realistic way for you to improve your damage, no. :P

Ephemeral Dreamer · Apr 14, 2006, 05:46 PM // 17:46

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Originally Posted by Yanman.be

I got this nice bow here... Icy ( must be Fiery if I'm fighting plants right? ) Storm Bow of Pruning

Pretty sure you don't have to change your bow's string from Icy to Fiery, since kindle arrows will already achieve that affect for you

Huntmaster · Apr 14, 2006, 07:43 PM // 19:43

You could change the icy to 10/10 sundering, that would theoretically give you more damage, and as said, 15-5e and 20% vs plants. If you manage that, you've probably got the strongest bow possible against these guys. (With kindle up.)